White House border czar on shootings in Texas and Maine, ICE body cams and alleged election fraud

(CBS, KYMA) - White House border czar Tom Homan spoke with Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation Sunday about the deadly shootings in Texas and Maine.

26-year-old Joan Sebastian Guerrero of Colombia and 52-year-old Lorenzo Salgado Araujo of Mexico were shot and killed by ICE agents just a week apart, but according to Brennan, they were not the intended targets.

When asked how does he respond to those who say what's happening now looks like very little has changed from what happened in Minneapolis earlier this year, Homan said:

"First of all, we'll wait and see what the investigations...how they play out, right? Because, you know, I don't want to get ahead of investigations on who's at fault, what exactly happened. Because we all know when the investigations happen, there's going to be cellphone video, there may be city cameras, and of course, then you got witness statements and affidavits from the officer, and witnesses. So, we got to let the investigations play out. So, I don't want to really comment on investigation themselves, but you know, I think, you know, Markwayne Mullin, you know, took some action, and in concern of the safety of the agents and how we do operations, and that's why he did that, you know, that pause on enforcement on vehicle stops. But you know...my concern is I've never...I've done this since 1984. My concern is I think a lot of the rhetoric that you see every day, especially in sanctuary cities, and at these protests that- resist, members of Congress saying ICE isn't a real law enforcement agency...I actually think that emboldens some people to say, 'I'm not going to comply with ICE.' And I think no matter what people think of ICE, no matter what you think of immigration law, you should always comply with law enforcement."

Brennan followed up by asking if ICE caught the people they were actually looking for, and Homan said:

"One of them, I believe, we did, but you know that happens in law enforcement all the time. I mean, we're working, you know, we get leads on individuals, and you say, okay, well, this subject lives at this house, he drives this car, and when that subject leaves that house, you know, 6:00 in the morning, and someone gets in that car from that house, you know, they assume, 'Okay, this is our guy,' and they'll do a vehicle stop. And depending on when they make that stop and and that person complies, either they're going to be arrested or released. That's the way it's supposed to be. So you know, law enforcement deals with misidentity every day across the country, not just ICE, every law enforcement agency. I was a cop, I know that happens."

During the interview, Brennan and Homan talked about body cameras to be used by ICE agents, with Homan saying, "ICE would would have a camera now if the government wasn't shut down by Democratic members of Congress."

"But the cameras have been purchased. That wasn't enough, $20 million may have bought some cameras, but it doesn't buy the storage. It doesn't buy the resources we need for the thousands of FOIA requests we're going to get there. There has to be storage capability to hold these videos for a long time," Homan added. "So it didn't fund everything, but now we have the funding after reconciliation. The cameras have been purchased right now. They're training the trainer in deploying the cameras nationwide."

Later in the interview, Brennan and Homan talked about alleged election fraud, with Brennan reporting that DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin, after going through public records, identified 250,000 non-citizens in four states: California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Nevada.

This prompted her ask Homan if he's planning any operations prior to the November election, and if he acknowledges it would be illegal to have federal agents at election locations, to which he said: "You know, that's a question of DHS. I'm not in the loop on that. I'm not familiar with the information that DHS just released."

To watch more of Brennan's interview with Homan, click here.